Another Nokia N900 firmware update available, 3.2010.02-8.002

I popped my SIM into my Nokia N900 and turned it on this morning to discover that a Maemo 5 update was available. The new firmware is version 3.2010.02-8.002 and is 16.2MB in size. Unfortunately when I tried to install it on my N900 I received an error that there wasn’t enough memory available to install the update. I went into the application installer and saw that the Firefox browser consumed something like 40+MB so I uninstalled it and tried again with the firmware update. Again, I received a pop-up that there was not enough room in the target location. I went into Settings>General>Memory to check out what I had available and saw there was 1.63GB available for installable applications, 18.04GB available on the N900 memory and a full 14.27GB on my 16GB microSD card. I then had to do a bit of hunting around to discover that I needed more space in my rootfs directory. Following the tip from synplex in this Maemo.org thread I disabled all the extra catalogs I had in my Application Manager and the update worked like a charm.

N900 tips & tricks: Enable mouse mode in browser and play flash games

You are prompted to create a backup, but I like to live on the ragged edge so I went ahead and installed the update without a backup. Actually, I figure this is as good of a time as any to reload up apps I like and clean up my device.

There doesn’t appear to be any official changelog yet so I am not sure what was updated with this firmware. I will test out my device and keep an eye out for any official information on what was changed, but if you already did the update please feel free to post if you find anything too.

UPDATE: One noted change comes from plaban: “Just noticed one change. Now it is possible to install .deb packages without xterminal,just open the .deb file using file manager.”

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13 Comments to Another Nokia N900 firmware update available, 3.2010.02-8.002

Jeromeo
February 16, 2010

I get that “not enough available memory” when trying to restore backup settings, applications, etc. I’m shocked that no one involved with the update tried to resolve this error before pushing out this firmware upgrade. There are numerous posts on maemo.org about root folder becoming full and unusable-I really hoped this would’ve been addressed by now.

lmostro
February 16, 2010

bull%$#%$% mumbojombo can somebody put this nonsense step by step on video so that I can understand?

Woody
February 16, 2010

@Jeromeno: The only way you’d get that is if you enabled the extras-testing/devel areas, and/or installed some pretty major 3rd party apps (like Mozilla or the like.) If you’re doing that, then you should know how to undo it a well. If you’re running a stock system, even installing every app in the OVI store isn’t enough to fill the root folder.

@lmostro: A step by step video? No, someone can’t make one, since what you’ve installed or changed on YOUR phone is probably very unique to you. The author for example, uninstalled Fenec/Firefox and turned off a repository to make room for his install. I haven’t installed Firefox, but I have installed Pidgin, which eats a lot of space too. It’s different for every person, based on what you’ve installed, so one video won’t answer anything.

If you haven’t installed a lot of stuff, try just opening your App Manager (it’s in the list of programs you get by hitting the upper left icon twice) and selecting update. If you haven’t added a lot to your phone already, it should install just fine. If you have enabled other repositories and installed a ton of apps, then it seems kind of lame to be complaining about “mumbojombo”(sic) when you clearly know how to install and uninstall apps and add repositories.

Jeromeo
February 16, 2010

I find it simply ridiculous that an application (regardless of which repository it comes from) can tie up so much of the system that nothing else can work properly. A program that destroys system resources, ties up the processor, prevents new programs from being installed, and slows things down without telling the user it is doing so is a virus! Anyone who writes a program that is not optified and uses up root resources is an idiot. Any company that releases a device which boasts 32gigs of memory or 1gig of application memory but limits root to 100 usable megs is lying to its consumers. The fact that an enduser cannot increase available root memory is just lame. I have nearly 60 apps on my device; how do I sit down and figure out which ones are installed on the root file structure or not? How do I find out what is optified and what isn’t? How do I look up which program came from which repository? Is there an app out there that fixes this retarded problem? Why did all of these apps fit before I updated my firmware, but not after? Shouldn’t a new firmware update fix problems like this? I paid nearly $600 for this device-this is financially unsettling. I hate to say this (because I hate iApple) but an iPhone can install any app without causing any problems and not only costs less than half of the N900, but has teams of people working to fix problems in its operating system rather than leaving things up to developing communities who might choose to not optify anything.

Woody
February 17, 2010

@Jeromeo: Go buy an iPhone. No, really. I chalenge you to find one, unlocked, for under $600 that’s not tethered to a 2 year contract. iPhones off contract cost well over the price of the N900.

What you want is what iPhones are known for. They limit you so that you can’t install those 60 apps all at once from anywhere you please. You’re limited to install the apps they allow, after being fully optified and passing their stringent tests, and you’re limited to a set number of apps, with only one running at a time.

The N900 is designed to let you do what you want, even if you choose poorly and install 60 apps from random repositories without knowing if they’re optified or not. It’s more of a “you made your bed, now sleep in it” approach, vs the “I’m your mother, and this is how I make your bed” approach.

Sadly, you can’t have it both ways. Nokia can’t allow you the freedom to do whatever you want, and then build a universal updater that will take into account every possibility any of it’s users have randomly chosen to do. They put a sanity check in, and are telling you exactly whats wrong: You need space on your rootfs.

I have about 60 apps installed, and have ~58M free (75%) with the repositories turned off. When the first update hit, I had to grab the optified python package before I could update, but since then things have gone smoothly (and I’ve kept an eye on my rootfs space when I installed dev-level apps).

If you want to, there are ways to reformat your phone’s internal memory to have a larger base partition. It’s been done. But don’t complain what a poor product it is compared to a beloved iPhone after noting you’ve done things to it you can’t do on an iPhone (like installing 60 apps from random places).

Pritam
February 17, 2010

Hi Guys,

Anybody can tell me how to personalise ring tone with the contacts. I mean add personal ringtones to the contacts?

I tried but could not find how to do it and honestly if it is not possible than I think N900 has missed a simple phone function.

Regards,

Pritam

H30R0T
February 17, 2010

There’s a problem with the concept of the N900 device: It’s NOT a phone. Get it?. It’s a device with a lot of aplications and one of them is the “phone aplication”.

Nokia selled as a “internet tablet” not as a “smart phone”.

Jeromeo: Really, you need to buy an IPhone. At least you will get a “phone”.

Woody: Chalenge accepted: Nexus One by Google.

Pritam: You can’t personalize ring tones with the contacts right now. Sorry. Keep in touch in maemo.org… Maybe soon…

JD
February 17, 2010

Anyone complaining about a phone as open as the N900 not handling application installation and upgrades as seamlessly as the iPhone needs to contemplate the saying “With great power comes great responsibility.”

If you don’t want to have to manage storage on your device, use a different device.

This is why there are Mac users, PC users, and Linux users.

KP
February 18, 2010

To:H30R0T

Nexus One is not in the same level as N900 either. You have root access to your N900 and can “apt-get install” app, have ssh client/server, write a script to complish some cool task and many other stuff going on like you do in a linux box. But you don’t have access to your Android, no root.

H30R0T
February 18, 2010

To KP: Don’t get me wrong… I really love my N900!.

Please read more carefully the Woddy’s chalenge:

“I chalenge you to find one, unlocked, for under $600 that’s not tethered to a 2 year contract”

My answer still remains… Nexus One.

Lex
March 21, 2010

Hey guys, Ive had my N900 for about a month now and have been really happy with the device.

I too have the same issue with “not enough memory in target location” error which did annoy me some. I managed to overide the issue when updating following a psot I saw explaining how to update via root in the terminal which worked like a charm.

After update I cannot update any of my apps without following those steps again because of root memory being full, which is fine, but I would like to know how is the best way to tell what applications use what memory etc. last time I tried I uninstalled virtually all the applications to get rid of the error (to no avaail) which meant having to waste approx 60 seconds per app to uninxtall.

Can anyone point me in the right direction as to how I can find out if an application someone wrote will create / worsen the problem, like pre-knowing or something. Or to find an app / method of finding out which apps use the memory and where.

Apologies if this is a noob question, but I dont know the answer.

Thanx

mustafa
August 7, 2010

hey guyx im having a touch problem in my nokia n900 .. the touch usually works on its own but sometimes it does work properly . ive done almost everything i could like updating the fone , flashing it to its estremes , uing it without the memory card but nothing seems to happen . any idea what i should do or how i should get rid of this problem

dsoni
January 21, 2011

mustafa………..touch screen calibration?

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