Merry $&@#ing Christmas Nokia; Apple countersues

From all the information we have, check out this analysis, it seems by all accounts that Nokia had valid reasons to sue Apple back in October. In the loving spirit of the holiday season, Apple has now countersued Nokia stating that Nokia is infringing on 13 Apple patents. There are no details yet on what those 13 patents pertain to so we will have to keep an eye out to see what Apple believes Nokia took from them. I wonder how hard Apple had to dig to find more patents than Nokia accused them of stealing?

Bruce Sewell, Apple’s General Counsel stated, “Other companies must compete with us by inventing their own technologies, not just by stealing ours.”

Hmm, Nokia has been in this business a whole lot longer than you have Apple and I imagine they have invented quite a few things you modeled your iPhone after. Shoot, your iPhone still doesn’t match the power and capabilities of Nokia devices so don’t be so upset this Christmas season and chill out with your slick UI.

UPDATE: Now this is getting funny, according to The iPhone Blog Apple is suing Nokia for UI patents. How can this be when most of the US mobile press slams Nokia for an interface that is old and outdated? I always said there is very little difference in the way the Symbian OS looks (tap an icon, launch an app) compared to the iPhone, but the thing is Nokia has been doing it for a LOT longer. Maybe Nokia should be suing Apple for UI patents instead.

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14 Comments to Merry $&@#ing Christmas Nokia; Apple countersues

fz553
December 11, 2009

lol…well said.

Varun
December 11, 2009

Apple’s paying its lawyers really wel . LOL

I could not stop laughing when I read the lawsuit.

You bring a phone in 2007 and call yourself inventor of mobile telephony.

I’m a Telecom Engineer and in Wireless communication a lot of inventions were made in Finland and in Nokia.

iPhone still does not have a video calling camera or Multitasking or a Swappable battery or SIM card slot ..

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Shaun
December 11, 2009

There’s a list of the patents Apple alleges Nokia have infringed at http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20091211/apple-countersues-nokia/

There’s only two, maybe three, that are about the UI. Apple somehow are suggesting Nokia are infringing on UI themeing which is just bizarre since the iPhone doesn’t have themes. Apple have a patent for that though.

Tallbruva
December 11, 2009

UI patents???? Are you kidding me????

How about Apple wanted to sue Palm over multi-touch (which by the way, has been around since the 80’s). And lookie here, they weren’t the first ones to come up with the current concept. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JcSu7h-I40

Granted, the counter suit against Nokia isn’t based on multi-touch (so far as we know). But it highlights that “[Apple] must compete with [Other companies] by inventing their own technologies, not just [other companies’].”

Or perhaps they hope to get a young-buck judge who doesn’t remember that Xerox – not Apple – came up with the point-n-click mouse (or did Apple “invent” it because they bought it?). Perhaps they’re suing over having a grid layout on a phone…. Oh wait, Nokia had that BEFORE Apple released the iPhone.

The logical side of me says this stuff happens all the time btwn corporations. My cynical side (which I believe in this case) says Apple sees the writing on the wall. Mameo, Android, Windows Phone 7…. Apple’s trying to keep themselves relevant until they come up with something “new” (notice the commercials?) or leech off everyone else who’s trying to improve instead of resting on their “WE’RE THE BEST” laurels.

I’m not sayin’…. I’m just sayin’

To Nokia fanboys
December 11, 2009

Take that, Nokia fanboys:
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/12/11/the-real-patent-story-behind-apple-vs-nokia/

Educate yourself a little, don’t just throw random fanboy lies.

Matthew Miller
December 11, 2009

The article linked above states, “So this is not a case of tit-for-tat as virtually every report so far has suggested. It’s a case of Nokia, finding itself well behind the curve in mobile phones, attempting to extort unfair, unreasonable, and discriminatory licensing terms against Apple for patents which Nokia has already committed to license under fair reasonable and nondiscriminatory terms.”

Is the author showing a bit of Apple bias here by stating “Nokia, finding itself well behind the curve in mobile phones”? As readers here know, Nokia is not behind the curve at all and has had phones more powerful than the iPhone for years. It is arguable about the UI, but I personally doubt Nokia sued Apple as a form of tantrum throwing about Apple’s rising marketshare and when the original lawsuit came out it seemed pretty clear that others were paying for Nokia’s technology and Apple was resisting.

I am not a lawyer and will leave all the legalese up to them to figure out. Apple is known for closed policies and rigid sharing so I have a hard time believing they are not at fault here.

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Nokia Fangirl
December 12, 2009

Wow…not only are you trying back up an elitist company you did it with sexism as well,

Well done!
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s4r
December 13, 2009

No need for a lengthy comment. Non iGnorant people know what a true smartphone is. And, the iPhone that iSheep have iSn’t one of them.

Enjoy your walled garden of applications.


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