Apps appearing on N900 Maemo Select site, more battery thoughts

Do you always have a data connection open? Ie are you keeping IM apps online and open, realtime emails?

If not, half a day (12 hours?) seems MMmmmm

Wow that battery life is quite horrible. I know firmware updates improve things but to see it last a day based on ur moderate usage would be a miracle. Definitely would stay away from this phone until final reviews are out. No point in a powerful phone if it’s dying quickly…..

Wow… half a day of battery life is quite poor. Unacceptable actually! I’ll still get one, but I surely hope Nokia will keep its “promise” of up to 1 day with on-line usage…

How can you class it moderate use when you have MFE constantly connected to the net pushing emails to your device?

Interesting, your battery life experience doesn’t even remotely match mine. I get 16 hours or so with “moderate” usage (browsing, IM, email, IRC, WiFi 24/7, data sometimes).

By half a day, I mean a work day and not 12 hours. I am getting about 5-6 hours out of the N900 most of the time, which actually has been keeping me from using it as my daily device because it just doesn’t cut it.

I can class it moderate because I have it signed OUT of IM the whole time, sitting on my desk with the display off the majority of the time, and actually may even consider it more minimal usage. I am not spending hours and hour surfing, IMing, or anything and seeing this battery life.

Ryan, what firmware are you running?

BTW, I have the display set on 3 our of 5 in brightness too.

You might go here for more wallpaper

http://www.n900wallpapers.com/wallpaper/

This is really worrying. Hope it has a drastic improvement when the final thing comes out.

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Max brightness here 90% of the time, XChat idling, rtcomm idling on GTalk, AIM, and SIP, email fetch every 15 minutes.

Are you sure that your WiFi AP isn’t broken? If it’s not letting WiFi go into powersave, that could be an issue. Is the device warm to the touch?

etuoyo, Matt’s experience doesn’t match the experiences of the rest of the people with pre-release devices I’ve talked to, so I wouldn’t be too worried.

I have been using the N900 for a few eeks myself and I can categorize my usage as similar to the author but without Exchange. I get a full day easily.

Hey Matt,

I saw a youtube video of the N900 using the Transmission bittorrent client. (for all your perfectly legal free software downloading ) There seemed to be some buggyness but overall a cool feature.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo8DGHUQmtE

Random question that you as an N900 owner could perhaps answer: would you mind posting the list of trusted SSL certificate authorities from the device?

In particular, does it include StartCom SSL? That would allow the N900 to work out of the box with free SSL certificates.

Hi Matthew I have a question about Nokia N900 Apps. When you download the apps, do the apps reside in the built-in 32GB memory or do they reside in the 1GB of available App memory?

As you may know, in Android the apps only reside in the internal memory (not in the 16 GB memory card for DROID as example).

I think this is a key distinction between DROID and Apple iPhone. So I want to know about N900 in this regard.

Your response is greatly appreciated.

Thanks Sathish.

There is no option asking me to install apps on the 32GB drive so they are loaded by default into the 1GB area (approximately 700+MB for apps from what I understand). This should never be an issue like it is on the Android phones with limited (128 or 256MB) memory.

Hi Matt Thank you for the Prompt response. Walt Mossberg (WSJ) mentioned in his article that iPhone apps get stored by default in the 16 GB or 32 GB memory. DROID by verizon has only 256 MB for apps. So obviously the number of apps you can have on iPhone are a lot more compared to Android. So I am wondering if this limitation is the same for N900 or does it work like iPhone for storing apps?

Please let me know. Thanks

Matt, that’s not quite how it works. The 1GB of “application memory” is a combination of RAM and sawp.

There are several different “memories” on the N900:

1. The 256MB of built-in NAND that the operating system resides on
2. The 256MB of RAM.
3. The 768MB of swap (it’s like really slow RAM that’s on your hard drive) on the built-in 32GB eMMC.
4. 2GB of application installation storage on the built-in 32GB eMMC.
5. ~29GB of user storage on the built-in 32GB eMMC.

In practice, users wont need to concern themselves with any of this. So if you’re a user, don’t worry about it, the N900 has plenty of storage.

For those of you interested in the technical details, packages in Extras and the Ovi Store are setup to place their application data in the /opt partition which resides on the 32GB eMMC. The OS, smaller binaries and certain libraries are stored on the 256MB NAND (which is much faster than the eMMC). When you install packages the package itself will decide where to store its data, so you don’t need to worry about selecting an install location like on Symbian.

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i have had my n900 for about a week now. and on the first day of having it i thought the battery life was a bit poor…. however i did not put it down all day. since then i have taken it to work and had the mp3 player running from 7.30am til 5pm without turning it off and i still had a few hours charge after turning the mp3 player off.

the battery life is not that bad really its just when i first had it i wanted to test its capabilities so i had multiple online applicaions running i was downloading apps and games and everything i could hence why it lasted about half a day. but when you use it like you will day to day you definately have a full day battery… and that is staying online for the full time as my emails and skype etc are always on.

hope this helped

Hi, new N900 for Christmas. Listened to an audiobook and made a few phone calls, 10 hours and the battery is low but still playing the audiobook. Wifi on and used about 1/2 hour, bluetooth on, but not used. Not sure what you have to do to get only 5 hours of batterylife.

I have the N900 as an upgrade from the iphone (3gs) and it lasts about the same if not a little longer (nothing to brag about though) It lasts a day with it being constantly being conected (MSN, FB, SKYPE, 3 email accounts) plus roughly 20 – 40 min calls / day + 20 texts and some mails.

I think all smart phones have a battery issue which is frustrating, but it does last one day and charging is very quick! – still i’d feel more comfortable with a 2 day battery as if this is the best it will be then things may be tough 6 month in the future which was definitely the case with the iphone (had to be charged overnight and once during the day)

In all honesty. When you get a new phone you start playing with it like mad trying out things. This is when the battery drops really fast. After that you start tuning it to your daily usage and it lasts a decent amount of time. It takes me through the day.

If I’m not mistaken the only thing that drains battery life of a phone really really fast is GPS. Second is 3g connection however nothing beats draining the batt while using GPS. I don’t have my connection on 24/7. I don’t really need my emails pushed to me (as if I’m going to reply all emails on the dot. If its urgent they will call). I check when I want to, isn’t that making things accessible wherever and whenever and not controlled by Technology. So keep things off unless you know you’re going to hang out for 1-2 hours at a cafe or something then turn your connections on.

I doubt anyone is that busy, you should know when it is go time and when its not. If you don’t then you probably need to straighten your life. If you know you’re going to be out for a long time charge the phone first. (I know some of you would rather wait for the battery to finish before recharging) charging does not have the memory problems of years ago.

At my current deployment now my phone is connected to the internet almost 24/7 however when I arrive on site I am logged in to the 3.5g dialup which charges the phone and provides connectivity and music via bluetooth.

Check my blog at http://then900blog.wordpress.com/

I would nees some help as well like with news, apps, games.

Ty guys

Peter G